tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596708332568087278.post8662262734065116034..comments2024-01-24T10:39:27.668-05:00Comments on Coming Untrue: Tolerating Evil: Moral Relativism and the Slippery Pole to HellDr. S. L. Andersonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06303707167715370504noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596708332568087278.post-81983245899544319152019-01-24T23:31:16.031-05:002019-01-24T23:31:16.031-05:00Came across this interesting article discussing th...Came across this interesting article discussing the morality of our modern wealthy elites. <br /><br />https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/jan/22/the-new-elites-phoney-crusade-to-save-the-world-without-changing-anything?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other<br /><br />It indeed sheds some light on how morality can be defined and used as cover to suit and shield your (less than moral) purposes. So, yes, morality only truly exists fully if defined and excercised as an effort at establishing a personal relationship with God as teacher. At least one must try, even risk failure (think of Solomon's thousand concubines and King David's weakness). <br />Qmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596708332568087278.post-27620702921483536602016-01-18T06:55:44.702-05:002016-01-18T06:55:44.702-05:00Actually, Q, my target audience on this blog is Ch...Actually, Q, my target audience on this blog is Christians, not Atheists. My line of thought here is aimed at helping Christians think through the implications of relativism if they allow it in their own position: namely, that "tolerating" for the sake of coming across as "open-minded" is really just greasing the slippery pole to hell.<br /><br />I do, in fact, have arguments against Atheism. Those who know me in other realms could tell you that for sure. And while you are correct to say that some Atheists simply do not respond to reason, I have found that some do. In particular, those Atheists who have never been properly exposed to good Christian reasons but do not have a hard-hearted attitude can often open up to truth when they finally hear it. Not all professing Atheists are solid Atheists at all. The reflexive "I-Don't-Know-So-I-Guess-I'm-An-Atheist" Atheist is fairly abundant...and open to reasons.<br /><br />But I'm not looking for those here.<br />Immanuel Canhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11580529966007662214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596708332568087278.post-59819249342680392472016-01-17T22:31:03.233-05:002016-01-17T22:31:03.233-05:00You know, Q, I think that sums it up pretty well. ...You know, Q, I think that sums it up pretty well. Leave out the Spirit of God, and we are all wasting our time.<br /><br />Still, I find something like this post immensely useful to me in bolstering a faith that is often more visceral than intellectual. I get to say to myself, "Hey, that all makes as much sense as I instinctively hoped it did!"<br /><br />And if it moves one person one inch down the road in their thinking, it makes it very much worth it.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00346761712248157930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596708332568087278.post-64196182074868635612016-01-17T20:37:49.602-05:002016-01-17T20:37:49.602-05:00IC, you, probably more than anyone, know of course...IC, you, probably more than anyone, know of course that there is mainly one big problem with what you are suggesting. That can be summarized by envisioning the following scenario, namely, you assemble 100 secularists, atheists in a lecture hall, present them with your material, give them some time to think it through and discuss it and then hand out a questionnaire asking who has changed their mind.There will not be a single one who has. As a matter of fact, each and everyone will offer their own version of a rebuttal to you that will simply be transparently evasive and intended to subvert your argument by any means possible. This is because any argument offered is ultimately tied to a belief system adopted by a person throughout a lifetime (immature to mature) and there is a nearly infinite variation and nuances of belief systems depending on how it integrates with a person's inclinations and personal convenience. <br /><br />Thus your argument is ultimately only useful in that it can serve as an aid to those forces that are capable of disturbing, upsetting, changing, and influencing a person's interior equilibrium on a very personal level. Those forces must come directly from the spiritual side of our existence (God, the Holy Spirit, if you will) and those can manifest themselves interiorly as well as exteriorly (illness, insecurity, powerful experiences, etc.). In other words, plain logic, probability assessment, reason is mostly ineffective without such directed impetuses. It is also clear that those impetuses require a fertile ground, a conditioning, inside the individual that is also spiritually driven and is probably only effective in direct proportion to, and is clearly linked to, that person's character (or even the potential in that person for character). Without any of this, nothing will happen and it will all degenerate to a continual fighting of windmills by those spiritually in the know.Qmannoreply@blogger.com