Friday, September 26, 2025

Too Hot to Handle: A Hot Mess

In which our regular writers toss around subjects a little more volatile than usual.

Young pastors in American churches are a dying breed. So says Eric Conn, and he’s got a major 2017 study in hand from the Barna Group to prove it. The number of U.S. pastors under forty is currently half what it was in 1992, while the number over sixty-five has tripled. The Barna report concludes, “It is urgent that denominations, networks and independent churches determine how to best motivate, mobilize, resource and deploy more younger pastors.”

Tom: That’s a highly debatable conclusion, but not a surprising one. What’s interesting to me, IC, is not so much Barna’s “Aging of America’s Pastors” article, but Conn’s analysis of it. As someone who’s been there, he described vocational ministry as “a hot mess”.

Extending Limited Sympathy

Immanuel Can: I’m sure it is. I’ve seen some ways that it is. And Mr. Conn’s article contains some good points. But before we get all sympathetic with his plight, or that of the “younger pastors” for whom he advocates, we should ask if anybody was supposed to be doing that job in the first place. If not, then his complaint amounts to “The job that God told nobody to do is getting too hard for younger people to do anymore.” And my response then would be, “Yeah? Well, cry me a river.”

Tom: Well, precisely. I view the Barna report as confirmation of the wisdom of New Testament church order as taught by the apostles. Nowhere in the New Testament do we find young, seminary-trained men making careers out of presiding full-time over local churches. Instead, we find groups of older men whose families are pretty much grown up doing the often unappreciated work of shepherding and feeding the people of God. Many undoubtedly did it with no regular financial compensation at all.

Following New Testament church order would eliminate many of the problems the modern “pastoral” system poses for young families, which Conn so deftly exposes. And it would share the burden, as God intended.

Careering Into Trouble

IC: Yep. Conn has the idea that “pastor” is a career. He’s objecting that it’s poorly-compensated and undervalued, so young men have no reason to choose it anymore. But think about it: the definitive difference between what the Bible calls a “true shepherd” and what it calls a “hireling” is what? It’s the fact of being hired into a career, rather than of having done the work out of care for the sheep. A “hireling” is one paid to do the job instead of doing it out of love … a careerist, if you will. And that is the very reason he forsakes the sheep in their time of need.

The moral: you cannot trust guys who regard shepherding as a career. They’re nothing but hirelings.

Tom: Now, as my mother is fond of reminding me, a man can be grossly mistaken about God’s ideal arrangement for his churches and still be at heart a committed servant of Christ. He may have been taught to interpret the New Testament by reading back into it the clerical structures that exist in our generation, or he may never have imagined things could be done any differently than they are done today. Looking at what Conn is up to currently on his website, you can see there’s a lot more to him than mere careerism, and I find him quite perceptive in his analysis.

So credit where credit is due.

IC: Oh, certainly. I’d give him credit for pointing out a bunch of things that would be important concerns for any congregation. But his general point about us needing to attract young men to the pastorate, well, that’s just nonsense. We never ought to have had a pastorate in the first place if we were behaving biblically.

Predictable Results

Tom: True. Now, I assume Conn has made these sorts of observations before, and I find it amazing that nobody has yet drawn to his attention that every complaint he voices about the difficulties of being a young pastor is thoroughly predictable given the nature of the unbiblical role he trained for, sought out and accepted, and given his age when he accepted it.

Take this one, for instance:

“The vast majority of churches a young man will pastor are quite literally dens of vipers, at worst, or immature and worldly, at best. They generally lack biblical leadership, are plagued by ten years or more worth of sins not dealt with, and have chewed through pastors like cheese through the grater.”

IC: Yes. “[T]en years or more of sins not dealt with” is not a situation some blithe young man from seminary has any chance of addressing. Fair enough. But the “lack of leadership” is often actually a symptom of a church having depended on a pastorate to provide the leadership they were unwilling to cultivate themselves — so in that case, Conn’s proposed solution IS the problem.

Sins Not Dealt With

Tom: Precisely. He rightly grasps that these undealt-with sins in the congregation are toxic to church life, and rightly grasps that it is a shepherd’s job to point them out. But what is obvious to me and does not seem so obvious to Mr. Conn is that he who pays the piper calls the tune. If you have hired a man with the idea that he will fill three platform slots a week, visit the sick, do some counseling and in general ask “How high?” when you say “Jump”, and then the very first thing your new hire does is get into the seamy underbelly of your longstanding personal business, your first instinct is going to be to find yourself a different man.

IC: Of course. You invented the job description, you selected the guy, you hired the guy, you paid the guy, and now he not only doesn’t want to dance to your tune, but he even wants to dictate to you? Not likely.

Tom: It’s human nature, and that’s what’s bound to happen when a man accepts formal employment with a church board rather than serving voluntarily as an under-shepherd for the Chief Shepherd. It’s much more difficult to shut up a fellow brother in Christ with whom you’ve been in fellowship for 15 years when he tells you there’s something wrong with the way you are behaving, because you’re on the same level. He doesn’t work for you.

IC: Right. He’s a free agent, just like you. If he has any authority, it’s bought by the accuracy of his reference to scripture, backed by his proven character and his having already met the strictly-biblical qualifications of an elder. And because of that, if you don’t listen to him, you’ll answer for it to the Head of the Church.

First, Are You Experienced?

Tom: Further, you make a great point about experience. The New Testament envisions its pastors (or literally “shepherds”) as older men with the job of feeding and keeping watch over God’s people. We get that from Paul’s charge to the leadership of the church at Ephesus. He called the elders (literally “older men”, not a mere clerical title) and tasked them with the responsibilities of shepherding and overseeing. It’s an elder’s job to pastor, not the job of a rookie.

There’s a reason men are not called “elders” in the New Testament until their children are sufficiently grown-up that the quality of the father’s parenting may be evaluated by all. Their children are to be “faithful and not open to the charge of debauchery or insubordination”. As it is used in the NT, debauchery usually manifests in drunkenness or sexual license. These are not charges you can level at a six- or a ten-year-old. That puts a New Testament-style pastor in the forty-ish range right from the get-go, even if they began having children in their early twenties, which is rare these days.

A man in his forties who has raised children to near-adulthood has been around. He’s not going to be fazed or put off by church politics the way a recent seminary grad might.

IC: I have not found that recent seminary grads are a fount of good information. In general, seminary has given them plenty of information they have never had enough time to live out or to apply. Often they’ve never made an actual salary, have yet to raise a family and really haven’t achieved much in the real world — and yet they’re supposed to become spiritual guides to men and women twice their age. And, of course, in order to advance its own status, the seminary has blown smoke into them by telling them they are undertaking some kind of special martyrdom and high calling. They feel “owed” the respect of Christians because they think they’ve “made sacrifices” and “dedicated their lives” in ways they think ordinary Christians never have.

Tom: That’s certainly the vibe you get off some young pastor-types.

No Country for Young Men

Conn’s second observation is this, and we’ve sort of dealt with it already:

“To put it bluntly, the church is often no place for young men and their young families. When you confront the longstanding sins of career elders and their wives, trust me, they don’t spare your wife or your kids.”

This may well be true, but the solution is to stop putting new wives and/or young kids on the front lines. Scripture does not require this of a young father, so far as I can see. In your twenties and thirties, your primary job is raising your kids to know and love the Lord, not sorting out complex longstanding problems in your local church. In fact, I’d suggest you seek out the sort of local church where the elders and the “old guard” do not exhibit those problems. By the time you are ready to take on those sorts of issues, your kids are grown up and your wife has hopefully matured along with you to be able to handle the pressure.

IC: Yes. If it’s hard on a young “pastor’s” family, then the fault is on two sides: it’s certainly partly the fault of those who take out their unhappiness on the family, sure; but even before that, it’s the fault of the “pastor” himself, for taking on a role he never should have taken, and thus putting his family in an untenable situation. He may get some excitement from thinking he’s doing something sacrificial and spiritual, but the pastor’s-wife role is notoriously no fun, and she may or may not have been sufficiently consulted. Worse still, his children are in no position to make any decisions about what’s going to happen to them, even if they had means of anticipating it.

And if that’s true, the lack of young “pastors” Conn is lamenting may even be an evidence of young men becoming laudably more sensitive to the realities into which many in the older generation more thoughtlessly precipitated their families. In other words, it could even be a good sign.

Great Expectations

Tom: One more. Conn says:

“[M]ost churches have ridiculously high expectations for the pastor and heinously low expectations for themselves. Many churches … pay atrociously low wages … pastors are often expected to work obscene hours … with little vacation or personal time.”

Again, I’m not surprised it so often works out this way. The role one young man is trying to fill all by himself was actually designed by God to be filled by a number of part-timers. That impossible load he’s trying to carry was intended to be shared.

IC: Yes. Now, on the “low expectations for themselves” part, I think that’s the root of the problem. Many congregations that at one time had relied upon their members to become mature, knowledgeable and capable teachers of the Word, leaders and servants hired a “pastor” in the first place because they were already lowering their expectations of themselves, and wanted someone professional to deliver them from those duties and from the relentless challenge of growing up spiritually themselves. But another person, even a supposed professional, simply cannot do that. The dual misery of rising “pastoral” expectations combined with falling congregational and personal commitment produced a situation guaranteed to become dysfunctional.

The “pastor” was not the first problem: he was, at most, only the second. The first problem was the failure of the congregants to put in the effort to grow up as Christians themselves, and their refusal to take on their God-given responsibilities.

2 comments :

  1. You’ve made some astute points made here to be sure. I’d generally agree with your analysis with one key push back.

    It appears to me that you’re insinuating if a pastor is paid a salary they somehow automatically fall into the category of a hireling and are much more likely to “abandon the sheep in their time of need.”

    I see three problems with this assumption.

    1. There’s clear NT president for not muzzling the ox. If God thought that the incentive of a living wage was too great a conflict of interest for a shepherd to remain faithful, he wouldn’t have prescribed it.

    2. I could just as easily argue that a man who has a separate career or business as his primary vocation is perversely incentivized to protect his reputation in the community before shepherding the flock. Perhaps he’d be prone to abuse Roman’s 13 when the government told him to shutdown the church, he surely couldn’t risk losing his job. Or maybe he’d just shy away from discussing the sodomites and trannies when preaching, wouldn’t want to risk getting cancelled and losing all the clients of his business..

    I’m not suggesting that these are great arguments that hold much weight, I just see this as the opposite side of the coin yet equivalent to your presuppositions about unmuzzled ox.

    3. This one is purely anecdotal and only speculative based my short lifetime (I don’t believe it to be true about legends such as CFA from a bygone era.)

    However I’ve seen (albeit only a handful) of these so called hirelings stand up for their flocks at great personal risk to themselves. Churches like mine and Trinity grew in attendance during that time but they also lost a lot of people. That’s not even to mention the fines, threats of jail time, etc that these hirelings endured.

    This all occurred while every brethren church that I know of was shut down, masked up, or pretending zoom qualifies as a worthy substate for the (obviously in person) assembling of the saints.

    I understand there are many selfish, cowardly, or otherwise unqualified men performing the role of lead pastor in a lot of churches. Although that has not been my experience with full time pastors whatsoever. I’ve seen these hirelings be courageous and loyal to their flocks, plus they generally have a superior ability to teach, providing more edifying and applicable sermons than most part timers / retirees that run the brethren establishments. Personally, I’m very happy to have a career pastor leading my church.

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    1. I'll let the "shut down, masked up, or pretending" shot slide. If you were reading here at the time, you'll know I proposed responses to the COVID regs modeled on the practice of the apostles that did not involve either passive compliance or unnecessary conflict with the powers-that-be. I agree what happened wasn't remotely ideal, and some churches lost good people because of it.

      The real question is whether the Head of the Church intended the job of shepherding to be done by careerists qualified primarily by seminary training. The ox quote doesn't really get you there scripturally.

      In 1 Corinthians 9, Paul finishes his quote about the ox by saying "we have not made use of this right". He acknowledged the perception of compensation for services rendered could easily become a stumbling block to onlookers that he wanted to avoid. How much greater a stumbling block is the institutionalized ox?

      Later, in 1 Timothy 5, that ox is an elder (5:17), not a paid pulpit presence. If he's an elder, he ought to meet all Paul's qualifications, including a grown up, believing family. That means nobody could play ox until at least ten to fifteen years after graduation. How many young men are game for a career time out like that?

      Glad to hear you are pleased with your current guy. You may find his successor terrific too. Or not. But the hole each leaves behind when they depart means that role will always be there, open to all the potential abuses that come with it.

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